August 2, 2010
Review of Music Xray's S2O service
I read about Music Xray's S2O service in a LinkedIn forum and thought "what a great idea" so I signed up and entered The Genre Benders' album into the system (free). The "matches" the S2O system produces are based on mathematical analysis of the songs, not human ears, so I was curious as to the results. Thought I'd share my experiences of it.
Signup and upload worked seamlessly. Great interface, simple and easy to use.
I uploaded tracks on Thursday and got my first "match" messages on Sunday, August 1 (Australian time). Not every song got matched, but 6 of 11 got between one and six "probable" matches. Here's where I'm a bit discouraged.
The album's first track, "Long for the day", is an up-tempo acoustic-jazz tribute to Independent musicians and their lot in life. It got six matches, including "Internet Radio Airplay - Reggae - 100 Spins for $35" and "Love Songs wanted for compilation project ". It is neither reggae nor a love song.
Interestingly, the album's second track "Dancing with the Stones" IS reggae-based. It also got 6 matches, including "Internet Radio Airplay - Pop - 100 Spins for $35" but did not get matched to the reggae opportunity mentioned above.
The album's Lullabye, entitled "Lullabye", got three matches, including "Seeking New Music Talent Specializing in Darker Music Genres".
And here's the kicker: my Hillbilly lovesong, "Heart's with you", got three matches, including "Seeking songs for Lucas Hoge" but when, within hours of receiving the email, I clicked on this opportunity, the page said it had expired 2 days earlier and would provide no way for me to contact the provider.
Now, I have, for some time, had a serious aversion to these "opportunity" websites, including Sonicbids and so on. I'm not challenging the authenticity of those involved in this approach the 21st century music business but, to my way of thinking, paying for a product or service is BUSINESS, but paying for an "opportunity" is gambling. I won't gamble with my music.
Elsewhere in the LinkedIn forums, Mike started an interesting discussion called "You Can’t Spell Music Business without 'Business'".
I'll post his response to my experience of Music Xray's S2O service and also want to hear about other experiences people have had with it or similar. I'm hoping that the algorithms S2O uses are being refined and will actually contribute something to the music business in future.
Please persuade me that my aversion is unjustified ...
Posted by Huge at August 2, 2010 12:57 PM
Wow, a greatly well articulated and on the money review....you are right on!
Music xray is a SCAM!!!
Sonic bids makes million$ so this is just simply competition for a piece of the pie.
I agree, there is no rhyme or reason to the s2o matching thing...whatta joke!
I would never give this guy a dime...
I used sonicbids for a little while and got selected for 'opportunities' that were indeed real but didn't result in anything... everything that seemed like a dream opportunity I submitted for NEVER got selected....YET my music sells well on iTunes et al and I get plenty radio airplay on my own and I get great reviews so these scam opportunities don't add up or match the success I get from my own efforts and connections.
Most of the opportunities on these sites are from unknown labels/companies who are here today gone tomorrow.
So the best advice is to steer clear and stay far away from music xray, sonicbids and all the other vultures who scam $5 a pop but it does add up for them if enough suckers take the bait.
I advise artists to submit to college and indie radio on their own. I f your music and production is solid then you will get played, but played in a good way as in your music being played to thousands...not being played for a sucker and a fool. :-)
Play lots of gigs to get noticed...if you are good then you will get more gigs and you'll get noticed and sell ur merch at ur gis and people will buy it if they like you and ur tunes.
That is REAL advice and not foolish gambling as mentioned here...and this blog is correct. =D
I know hundreds of artists who are talented with great music that's well produced and not one has ever had tangible success/results with music xray, sonic bids and all the others. We/they do have success from selling on iTunes, playing gigs and submitting to college radio.
Caveat emptor buyer beware don't fall for the scams and they go to thin air! :-) Thanks!
have to agree, blew 40 bucks on one of their jokers and even before my piece was cut to ribbons , a good day prior to, xray sends me a note in regards to not getting selected tying to offer me a cut rate on one of their other joke critics.... what a farce.... looks like a good thing...for them, don't waste your dreams on wishful thinking...
Big Red Flag is the S2O 'matching system'.
I uploaded heavy metal/hard rock songs with male vocals and receive an email from music xray that my songs were matched to appropriate/possible opportunities...
The opportunities were "Hip-Hop/R&B artist/label needs songs' , submit music to Hip-Hop/R&B Radio station, "A&R for major label seeks hit songs for female country music artists"
NONE of my songs are even close to being a match ANY opportunities I receive from music xray.... Dolly Parton's Producer isn't going to select one of my spead death metal so 'NO THANKS' that from them if they even truly are connected to music xray...lol
Mike McCready...people NEED PROOF...not just your words... set up videos of real A&R's walking into record label fiices, passing thru security, showing badges, i.d.'s, beng verified...show them at work in their record label office,gold records in the wall....show industry pros that people KNOW...not unknowns that could be made up and fictitious and perhaps just "actors"...
I have been inside a major label building so I know it's quite a process to get inside.... it would help your credibility if you proved you have connections and access with the labels you claim too by taping your entrance into said buildings and taping interviews with known A&R's and Producers etc....not actors you hired though...
Here's a suggestion Mike, one that can help your integrity/credibility.... YOU and your staff peruse through music submitted to you/music xray and YOU/music xray submits the best songs with most commercial potential to music A&R's and if an artists song(s) is/are accepted by label etc...then you, music xray will receive money'percentage for your/their efforts in successfully placing music in TV/radio or perhaps getting a deal done.
Reverb Nation has MANY FREE opportunities with NO submission fee...
I submit to several FREE Reverb Nation opportunities as Reverb Nation has been around for a long time and has credibility and integrity.
Reverb Nation built trust and a strong reputation with artists long before they began providing industry opportunities. Reverb Nation provided and still provides FRE romotional tools/widgets/free radio, FREE fan attracting tools, fan email lists...and much much more....they have premium tools at a cost however Reverb Nation has most things most artists really need for free at no charge.
before you go asking $4 for submission fees....try proving yourself in the music industry and community first by building trust and integrity with artists first...in other words...GIVE artists free promotional tools/utilities first, before asking for money from artists.
You simply haven't proven to me and many others you are connected to the music industry/label execs/A&R's.....you SAY YOU ARE...but no tangible evidence/proof.... just your hot air words and slick sales pitch....which most of us aren't buying one bit....
Sorry, but not only wll I never pay you/music xray $4...I will never give you one penny.... why should I? Reverb Nation has a ton of totally FREE submission opportunities.
Music xray cannot compete with Reverb Nation and other music industry services.... just ain't happening.... charltans :-)
Listen up people! I'm starting legal action against Music X-Ray and looking for others who may want to have a chat about it all.
I'm a musician who has been dealing with Music X-Ray for a year or so now and I'd like to bring something rather interesting to this table, the table being; that 'Music X-Ray' are, con artists.
So, let's lay out all our cards on the table shall we? I think I may just have the ace of spades ;)
At present I am seeking legal advice and support. I have been in correspondence with Music X-Ray and Mike McCready the CEO which has now seemed to abruptly come to an end. Therefore, I am pursuing the matter further and have decided to file a report here firstly. Im looking for other Music X-Ray artists (or insiders) who may have some proofs to lay on this table. The proofs I have are recordings of my transcripts via email between myself and Music X-Ray, cached versions of fraudulent adverts on the site, print screen shots of a slip up message that Music X-Ray recently did (in my favour) which proves that they are allowing fraudsters to use the names of big labels! Whoops! Amongst one or two other print screens of other matters pertaining to fraudulent and deceptive activity.
They instantly took down the advert, but I have it stored, cached and Google will allow the content to be released in legal proceedings. I say that because Music X-Ray will probably request removal of the cache of this particular url for the deceptive ad they fraudulently allowed ;)
There are more proofs that I have uncovered regarding the fraudulent and deceptive workings of this company but I would be writing a long time and want to get on with the rest of the OP. The above list is simply the best of what I have, for the moment.
On searching and scouring the Internet recently for Music X-Ray issues with artists etc.. I came across this site and a few others. I'll be looking forward to hearing if anyone is interested in getting on board with this one so I'm looking for other artist's stories, whether they can be proven or not and I am looking for legal advice also.
Due to the nature of this situation and the present timing of this post, I am unable for security and legal reasons to reveal my proofs here for all to see. However, that may change once I have received a number of responses from certain people, companies and authorities and depending on their answers to me regarding my situation.
I look forward to any responses to my report but please keep things simple and to the point as I may have a lot to read through and record on file for my possible ensuing legal case. This legal case if it happens is to get justice done for atrists who have been conned out of the little money they already have by a company who wilfully allows false and fraudulent 'music industry professionals' on their site on a regular basis. Music X-Ray then take a commission out of this scams. It is my belief that Music X-Ray are in fact in collusion with a number of low key and bogus people (sometimes even anonymous) who claim to be industry professionals that can get you and your music in front of the people that matter. Which makes basically lures you in to spend your money and keep spending, and spending while not only the wallet is getting messed about with, but also the heart and mind.
Mike McCready always has an answer to these scam accusations but if you research the success stories that he illustrates to people, they are not what I would call success stories. All you have to do is a little digging to find that out.
Best regards, peace and unity! (without greed & corruption)
Steve - They Made Monsters